Who Were Noah's People?
- philhoraia
- Sep 7, 2024
- 4 min read
Nuh (Noah) was supposedly a prophet but the first messenger. He was sent to 'his people'. But who, according to the clear and detailed quran, were his people? If there was but one people, why does quran speak of his people, as though there were others?
S 7:59 We sent Nuh to his people and he said: People, worship Allah, you have no god other than him. I fear for you torture of a great day.
S 7:69 And have you wondered that a dhikr has come to you from your lord upon a man among you that he may warn you? And remember when he made you successors after Nuh’s people and increased you in creation extensively. So remember Allah’s favours; perhaps you will succeed.
If Christians and Jews are the People of the Dhikr, how can there be another dhikr? I am reminded of Galatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
S 9:70 Has the news of those before them not come to them, Nuh’s people and Ad’s and Thamud’s and Ibrahim’s people and the companions of Madyan and the mu’tafikat? Their messengers came to them with the proofs. And Allah would not wrong them but they were wronging themselves.
S 10:71 And read to them Nuh’s news when he said to his people: People, if my station and my recollection of Allah’s verses were big upon you, then in Allah have I put my trust. So agree unanimously on your affair and your partners. Then do not let your affair be gloominess upon you. Then decide for me and do not give me respite.
Did Nuh have a book? If so, why didn't Allah preserve it?
S 11:25 We sent Nuh to his people. I am an obvious nadhir for you:
S 11:36 And Nuh was inspired: None will believe of your people but him who has believed. So do not be sad about what they have been doing.
S 11:89 And people, let my schism not incite you lest the like of what struck Nuh’s people or Hud’s people or Salih’s people strike you. And Lut’s people are not far from you.
Lut's people weren't far from the Arabs? But weren't they wiped out when his village was overturned/stoned?
S 14:9 Has the news of those before you, Nuh’s people and Ad’s and Thamud’s, and those after them not come to you? None knows them but Allah. Their messengers came to them with proofs but they returned their hands to their mouths and said: We have disbelieved in what you have been sent with and we are in doubt about what you call us to, doubtful.
S 22:42 And if they call you a liar, Nuh’s people and Ad and Thamud accused of lying before them.
S 23:23 And we sent Nuh to his people and he said: People, worship Allah. You have no god other than him. So do you not fear?
S 25:37 And Nuh’s people, when they accused the messengers of lying, we drowned them and made them a sign for people, and we have prepared for the wrongdoers painful torture.
So how many messengers visited Nuh's people? Nuh was supposedly the first messenger but were there co-messengers? Did the other messengers survive? Were they, despite S 14:4, not of those people?
S 26:105 Nuh’s people accused the commissaries of lying.
Who were those commissaries, those messengers?
S 29:14 And we sent Nuh to his people and he remained among them 1,000 years but 50. Then the Flood took them when they were wrongdoers.
He remained among them for 950 years. But how old was he when the Flood came?
S 38:12 Nuh’s people accused of lying before them and Ad and Fir’awn, the possessor of stakes.
S 40:5 Nuh’s people accused of lying before them and the parties after them and every nation distressed their messenger to take him and they argued with falsehood to refute the truth therewith. So I took them and how a punishment was!
Are to understand that each nation had but one messenger? Is that ever? And what are we to make of S 25:37 above?
S 40:31 The like of the perseverance of Nuh’s people and of Ad and Thamud and those after them. And Allah does not want wrong for the slaves.
S 50:12 Nuh’s people and the companions of Al-Ras and Thamud accused of lying before them,
S 51:46 And Nuh’s people before. They were a dissolute people.
S 53:52 And Nuh’s people before. They were more wrong-doing and more tyrannical.
S 54:9 Nuh’s people accused of lying before them and they accused our slave of lying and said: A jinni-possessed man and he was driven away.
S 71:1 We sent Nuh to his people.
S 71:2 Warn your people before painful torture comes to them. He said: People, I am an obvious nadhir to you.
Now, as the author speaks of Arab idols, this suggests that his people were Arabs.
S 71:23 And they have said: Do not leave your gods and do not leave Wadd and Suwa and Yaguth and Ya’uq and Nasr.
If Nuh was sent to his people (S 14:4), and if his people were Arabs, then Nuh must have been an Arab. Now, if these pre-Islamic idols were worshipped by Nuh's people, how did they come to be worshipped in later days? Was there an idolator on the boat and from him the worship of these idols spread to the pre-Islamic Arabs?
Further reading:
Muhammad pretends to be Noah, and Noah's people are his tribe, the Quraysh. This is the same for all the "prophets" in Mo's Koran. They're all Mo pretending.